limits as a condition of self-organization
Michael,
Thanks for your secondary line. While the reality in our day, apparently looking at the upper and lower limits of the universe, I will now try a few thoughts on "self-organized" revitalization of our earth from the water or from water to derive. "Aqua vitam donat "Water gives life, or is directly or indirectly associated with the molecule and its properties. Water as the main energiedissipatives medium serves as the transport, reaction and coolant. Three different cyclic energiedissipative properties has this medium, namely, 1 to evaporate) when heated, 2) form at phase boundaries potentials due to increased charge separation and thus to enable chemical reactions or speed up, and 3) in living cells by water splitting and the synthesis of carbohydrates to energy storage for the operation of life processes by combustion of hydrogen to water by oxygen uptake and carbon dioxide, releasing energy hold.
We know that at a temperature of c. 300 ° K, each molecule in constant motion (vibration) and still water almost everywhere continuously available in liquid form.
Even pure water is by Dissoziationseigenschaften and the formation of hydrogen bonds in spatially and temporally variable, limited units - in clusters - broken. This structural property, the density anomaly of water to follow. A warming of the water from 0 ° C to 4 ° C leads to a contraction in volume, structure, improvement or a Entopieabsenkung.
Another important property of water is its ability to dissolve salts and ions to form a cargo carrier. By allocating a certain amount of water molecules to each ion within a single ion containing only the concentration range order and the Contiguous (consistency) of the formed ion solution increased. This is reflected in a lowering of freezing point and boiling point elevation. The liquid phase will be extended by a further volume contraction takes place, the temperature drops, the vibration properties are improved and the stability of the water-ion cluster. By the ions in the solution are also shares in addition to the polarity of the water already given (para) magnetic properties the electrical properties of reinforced so that the water interact-ion clusters with electromagnetic fields.
would have to phase boundaries originally a harmonious movement of the water molecule by a different harmonic motion that is the surrounding medium overlaid and the vibrational states are modulated so that the displacements are of the water molecules from the mean part, more, some less than in the unmodulated state. These deflections are the energy potential (pH), the reactions of the water control with other molecules.
The deflections of the water molecule determine, however, controlled space-time, the pH or the specific reactivity of the water. By a controlled harmonic injection of energy pulses should our water molecule up rocks so as to be able to be lowered in several stages, the pH and the stability criteria for the water to be achieved and exceeded and divided the water molecule to form hydrogen in the status nascendi. In such conditions can be assumed that carbon dioxide from bicarbonate ions are formed and are formed by lowering the energy density is only unstable Kohlehydratradikale that form with the release of energy and glucose in a row next to cellulose and starch (polysaccharides) can be polymerized. In such reactions would, of course, the allocation of the reactants and may be the removal of the reaction products in places with minimal energy density within the standing wave fields at each reaction. The reaction centers and the steady entropieabsenkende metabolism could this structural molecules (with the function of aperiodic crystals) in a - / + are dynamic, interference-free space (Hilbert space) is controlled so that Entropieminima as domains with minimal random shares (maximum of stable, closed internal circuits result) would have. The reaction products
be dynamically formed so long and are deposited on low-energy points to a chemical equilibrium, the production rate equals the decay rate and thus can be exact spatial and temporal conditions were met.
The role of water while the dissipative medium would be analogous to its role in the formation of sand dunes on the beaches of the sea. Constantly breaking waves dissipate their energy in interactions with the underlying sand, the individual sand grains stand by the resultant buoyancy of the sand structure, thereby sorting the sands by outweighs speed it up to the gravity lift and the larger grains of sand a little earlier than the smaller grains of sand again be deposited in this way, the shock wave marks (ripple marks) made with the property, the highest sand grains to exchange more often than those already formed stable (dissipative) structures.
This pattern formation (structure formation) as long as the energy structure in the form of (sun) is available pulses must always take place. Disturbances inevitably lead to the evolution of a pattern characterized by always field at phase boundaries, even at quite the same temperatures and chemical potentials in the form of mechanical modulation differences (pH differences) are available and run reactions. Every river is becoming a most stable structure by the speed of the transported material in relation to water speed is gradually lowered the maximum. Ie, the "life process" of a River leads both to more stable conditions with trained by constant "interference" by short-wave (sometimes even life) processes in the catchment area are always new variants of the ever improving energy dissipation at surfaces and phase boundaries with better closed loop control.
We have seen that is formed under the steady influence of more or less stable energy pulses a stabilizing dissipative structure to continue growing phase boundaries. This results in more closed and circulated material structures that reduce the energy flows and the "entropic disorder" , Engegenwirken so that a continuous increase of entropy are qualified. The universe has to serve not necessarily as a boundless Entropiemüllhalde.
The formative feature of our observable universe from Earth, then, is the dynamics of interaction in feedback from water to other matter. The philosophical question to be asked my opinion is still the question whether we should require outside the area observed a continuity that we observe in practice within our area before.
Whether derived from the observable means of a mathematical proof, usually with circular structure of the way to the reality of physical laws leaves as for example in Roger Penrose's book is "The road to reality .- A complete guide to the laws of the universe." asserts seems uncertain.
on the consideration of the water and the water molecule on its distribution in the universe we know neither space nor in time very little, except that our intellectual capacities are developed immediately from the interaction of water to constantly becoming and passing substantive phase or membrane interfaces. Is not the hope of growth and evolution of organisms, and ultimately the spirit of humanity with the eternal hope of infinity and fulfillment of the compass that drives us to the islands of sustainability, as you've described it so eloquently in your book.
I think that we from the average perspective of what we experience directly and watch should make our future. The fact that we had the transition from what and what is persistent, then can make better if we seek in the next step of our hubris of the limited superior knowledge of a prior understanding of the relationships that we see life as a path and the target of an evolution where our World intrnalisieren in ourselves rather than with maximum energy our future and our subsistence (the ability to survive on its own land area) put at risk.
The entire structure of our water-dependent Creation in self-similar (fractal) structures on the nano-organism up to the annual rent standing spring landscape with its recursive couplings is to humanity and its still under development, based intelligence. At regular intervals, resulting singular time frame for abrupt changes, it was a Menetekelbotschaft or the collapse of the mind and enslaving the human society. Today's threat is to a man despising science tries to run through simple silver bullet, brought in more and more money-driven central state entities as the state religion, globalized, all action and synchronized to leave.
This boundless company divested itself of the most important process to ensure a sustainable future that is the evolutionary process to provide the necessary flexibility to adapt organisms to the most site-and time-related phase dynamics. Evolution is also an energy-driven process of priority at phase boundaries and proceeds transferred to this relatively low-level potential in momentum. Too high and low cutoff potentials lead to disasters or social inefficiency. This development occurs by excessive or incorrect phase regulation of companies by means of laws with universality and is too large centralized political Units achieved. The findings show of Leopold Kohr (The Breakdown of Nations) as the growth of nations increasingly can increase the social inefficiency and thus promotes the decay. For this reason, it seems important to situate decentralized structures in the first place to revive, situate democracy locally and to make the socialization process continuously and efficiently.
Have tried this time in a sweeping water-related social and scientific concerns and perhaps take up the education in our society in the future and more water-bound organisms as to create event-oriented. Looking forward to a ping as the next post from you Regards Willy
Wednesday, April 29, 2009
Kiera Knightley Brazilian Wax
limits as a condition of self-organization
Michael,
Thanks for your secondary line. While the reality in our day, apparently looking at the upper and lower limits of the universe, I will now try a few thoughts on "self-organized" revitalization of our earth from the water or from water to derive. "Aqua vitam donat "Water gives life, or is directly or indirectly associated with the molecule and its properties. Water as the main energiedissipatives medium serves as the transport, reaction and coolant. Three different cyclic energiedissipative properties has this medium, namely, 1 to evaporate) when heated, 2) form at phase boundaries potentials due to increased charge separation and thus to enable chemical reactions or speed up, and 3) in living cells by water splitting and the synthesis of carbohydrates to energy storage for the operation of life processes by combustion of hydrogen to water by oxygen uptake and carbon dioxide, releasing energy hold.
We know that at a temperature of c. 300 ° K, each molecule in constant motion (vibration) and still water almost everywhere continuously available in liquid form.
Even pure water is by Dissoziationseigenschaften and the formation of hydrogen bonds in spatially and temporally variable, limited units - in clusters - broken. This structural property, the density anomaly of water to follow. A warming of the water from 0 ° C to 4 ° C leads to a contraction in volume, structure, improvement or a Entopieabsenkung.
Another important property of water is its ability to dissolve salts and ions to form a cargo carrier. By allocating a certain amount of water molecules to each ion within a single ion containing only the concentration range order and the Contiguous (consistency) of the formed ion solution increased. This is reflected in a lowering of freezing point and boiling point elevation. The liquid phase will be extended by a further volume contraction takes place, the temperature drops, the vibration properties are improved and the stability of the water-ion cluster. By the ions in the solution are also shares in addition to the polarity of the water already given (para) magnetic properties the electrical properties of reinforced so that the water interact-ion clusters with electromagnetic fields.
would have to phase boundaries originally a harmonious movement of the water molecule by a different harmonic motion that is the surrounding medium overlaid and the vibrational states are modulated so that the displacements are of the water molecules from the mean part, more, some less than in the unmodulated state. These deflections are the energy potential (pH), the reactions of the water control with other molecules.
The deflections of the water molecule determine, however, controlled space-time, the pH or the specific reactivity of the water. By a controlled harmonic injection of energy pulses should our water molecule up rocks so as to be able to be lowered in several stages, the pH and the stability criteria for the water to be achieved and exceeded and divided the water molecule to form hydrogen in the status nascendi. In such conditions can be assumed that carbon dioxide from bicarbonate ions are formed and are formed by lowering the energy density is only unstable Kohlehydratradikale that form with the release of energy and glucose in a row next to cellulose and starch (polysaccharides) can be polymerized. In such reactions would, of course, the allocation of the reactants and may be the removal of the reaction products in places with minimal energy density within the standing wave fields at each reaction. The reaction centers and the steady entropieabsenkende metabolism could this structural molecules (with the function of aperiodic crystals) in a - / + are dynamic, interference-free space (Hilbert space) is controlled so that Entropieminima as domains with minimal random shares (maximum of stable, closed internal circuits result) would have. The reaction products
be dynamically formed so long and are deposited on low-energy points to a chemical equilibrium, the production rate equals the decay rate and thus can be exact spatial and temporal conditions were met.
The role of water while the dissipative medium would be analogous to its role in the formation of sand dunes on the beaches of the sea. Constantly breaking waves dissipate their energy in interactions with the underlying sand, the individual sand grains stand by the resultant buoyancy of the sand structure, thereby sorting the sands by outweighs speed it up to the gravity lift and the larger grains of sand a little earlier than the smaller grains of sand again be deposited in this way, the shock wave marks (ripple marks) made with the property, the highest sand grains to exchange more often than those already formed stable (dissipative) structures.
This pattern formation (structure formation) as long as the energy structure in the form of (sun) is available pulses must always take place. Disturbances inevitably lead to the evolution of a pattern characterized by always field at phase boundaries, even at quite the same temperatures and chemical potentials in the form of mechanical modulation differences (pH differences) are available and run reactions. Every river is becoming a most stable structure by the speed of the transported material in relation to water speed is gradually lowered the maximum. Ie, the "life process" of a River leads both to more stable conditions with trained by constant "interference" by short-wave (sometimes even life) processes in the catchment area are always new variants of the ever improving energy dissipation at surfaces and phase boundaries with better closed loop control.
We have seen that is formed under the steady influence of more or less stable energy pulses a stabilizing dissipative structure to continue growing phase boundaries. This results in more closed and circulated material structures that reduce the energy flows and the "entropic disorder" , Engegenwirken so that a continuous increase of entropy are qualified. The universe has to serve not necessarily as a boundless Entropiemüllhalde.
The formative feature of our observable universe from Earth, then, is the dynamics of interaction in feedback from water to other matter. The philosophical question to be asked my opinion is still the question whether we should require outside the area observed a continuity that we observe in practice within our area before.
Whether derived from the observable means of a mathematical proof, usually with circular structure of the way to the reality of physical laws leaves as for example in Roger Penrose's book is "The road to reality .- A complete guide to the laws of the universe." asserts seems uncertain.
on the consideration of the water and the water molecule on its distribution in the universe we know neither space nor in time very little, except that our intellectual capacities are developed immediately from the interaction of water to constantly becoming and passing substantive phase or membrane interfaces. Is not the hope of growth and evolution of organisms, and ultimately the spirit of humanity with the eternal hope of infinity and fulfillment of the compass that drives us to the islands of sustainability, as you've described it so eloquently in your book.
I think that we from the average perspective of what we experience directly and watch should make our future. The fact that we had the transition from what and what is persistent, then can make better if we seek in the next step of our hubris of the limited superior knowledge of a prior understanding of the relationships that we see life as a path and the target of an evolution where our World intrnalisieren in ourselves rather than with maximum energy our future and our subsistence (the ability to survive on its own land area) put at risk.
The entire structure of our water-dependent Creation in self-similar (fractal) structures on the nano-organism up to the annual rent standing spring landscape with its recursive couplings is to humanity and its still under development, based intelligence. At regular intervals, resulting singular time frame for abrupt changes, it was a Menetekelbotschaft or the collapse of the mind and enslaving the human society. Today's threat is to a man despising science tries to run through simple silver bullet, brought in more and more money-driven central state entities as the state religion, globalized, all action and synchronized to leave.
This boundless company divested itself of the most important process to ensure a sustainable future that is the evolutionary process to provide the necessary flexibility to adapt organisms to the most site-and time-related phase dynamics. Evolution is also an energy-driven process of priority at phase boundaries and proceeds transferred to this relatively low-level potential in momentum. Too high and low cutoff potentials lead to disasters or social inefficiency. This development occurs by excessive or incorrect phase regulation of companies by means of laws with universality and is too large centralized political Units achieved. The findings show of Leopold Kohr (The Breakdown of Nations) as the growth of nations increasingly can increase the social inefficiency and thus promotes the decay. For this reason, it seems important to situate decentralized structures in the first place to revive, situate democracy locally and to make the socialization process continuously and efficiently.
Have tried this time in a sweeping water-related social and scientific concerns and perhaps take up the education in our society in the future and more water-bound organisms as to create event-oriented. Looking forward to a ping as the next post from you Regards Willy
Michael,
Thanks for your secondary line. While the reality in our day, apparently looking at the upper and lower limits of the universe, I will now try a few thoughts on "self-organized" revitalization of our earth from the water or from water to derive. "Aqua vitam donat "Water gives life, or is directly or indirectly associated with the molecule and its properties. Water as the main energiedissipatives medium serves as the transport, reaction and coolant. Three different cyclic energiedissipative properties has this medium, namely, 1 to evaporate) when heated, 2) form at phase boundaries potentials due to increased charge separation and thus to enable chemical reactions or speed up, and 3) in living cells by water splitting and the synthesis of carbohydrates to energy storage for the operation of life processes by combustion of hydrogen to water by oxygen uptake and carbon dioxide, releasing energy hold.
We know that at a temperature of c. 300 ° K, each molecule in constant motion (vibration) and still water almost everywhere continuously available in liquid form.
Even pure water is by Dissoziationseigenschaften and the formation of hydrogen bonds in spatially and temporally variable, limited units - in clusters - broken. This structural property, the density anomaly of water to follow. A warming of the water from 0 ° C to 4 ° C leads to a contraction in volume, structure, improvement or a Entopieabsenkung.
Another important property of water is its ability to dissolve salts and ions to form a cargo carrier. By allocating a certain amount of water molecules to each ion within a single ion containing only the concentration range order and the Contiguous (consistency) of the formed ion solution increased. This is reflected in a lowering of freezing point and boiling point elevation. The liquid phase will be extended by a further volume contraction takes place, the temperature drops, the vibration properties are improved and the stability of the water-ion cluster. By the ions in the solution are also shares in addition to the polarity of the water already given (para) magnetic properties the electrical properties of reinforced so that the water interact-ion clusters with electromagnetic fields.
would have to phase boundaries originally a harmonious movement of the water molecule by a different harmonic motion that is the surrounding medium overlaid and the vibrational states are modulated so that the displacements are of the water molecules from the mean part, more, some less than in the unmodulated state. These deflections are the energy potential (pH), the reactions of the water control with other molecules.
The deflections of the water molecule determine, however, controlled space-time, the pH or the specific reactivity of the water. By a controlled harmonic injection of energy pulses should our water molecule up rocks so as to be able to be lowered in several stages, the pH and the stability criteria for the water to be achieved and exceeded and divided the water molecule to form hydrogen in the status nascendi. In such conditions can be assumed that carbon dioxide from bicarbonate ions are formed and are formed by lowering the energy density is only unstable Kohlehydratradikale that form with the release of energy and glucose in a row next to cellulose and starch (polysaccharides) can be polymerized. In such reactions would, of course, the allocation of the reactants and may be the removal of the reaction products in places with minimal energy density within the standing wave fields at each reaction. The reaction centers and the steady entropieabsenkende metabolism could this structural molecules (with the function of aperiodic crystals) in a - / + are dynamic, interference-free space (Hilbert space) is controlled so that Entropieminima as domains with minimal random shares (maximum of stable, closed internal circuits result) would have. The reaction products
be dynamically formed so long and are deposited on low-energy points to a chemical equilibrium, the production rate equals the decay rate and thus can be exact spatial and temporal conditions were met.
The role of water while the dissipative medium would be analogous to its role in the formation of sand dunes on the beaches of the sea. Constantly breaking waves dissipate their energy in interactions with the underlying sand, the individual sand grains stand by the resultant buoyancy of the sand structure, thereby sorting the sands by outweighs speed it up to the gravity lift and the larger grains of sand a little earlier than the smaller grains of sand again be deposited in this way, the shock wave marks (ripple marks) made with the property, the highest sand grains to exchange more often than those already formed stable (dissipative) structures.
This pattern formation (structure formation) as long as the energy structure in the form of (sun) is available pulses must always take place. Disturbances inevitably lead to the evolution of a pattern characterized by always field at phase boundaries, even at quite the same temperatures and chemical potentials in the form of mechanical modulation differences (pH differences) are available and run reactions. Every river is becoming a most stable structure by the speed of the transported material in relation to water speed is gradually lowered the maximum. Ie, the "life process" of a River leads both to more stable conditions with trained by constant "interference" by short-wave (sometimes even life) processes in the catchment area are always new variants of the ever improving energy dissipation at surfaces and phase boundaries with better closed loop control.
We have seen that is formed under the steady influence of more or less stable energy pulses a stabilizing dissipative structure to continue growing phase boundaries. This results in more closed and circulated material structures that reduce the energy flows and the "entropic disorder" , Engegenwirken so that a continuous increase of entropy are qualified. The universe has to serve not necessarily as a boundless Entropiemüllhalde.
The formative feature of our observable universe from Earth, then, is the dynamics of interaction in feedback from water to other matter. The philosophical question to be asked my opinion is still the question whether we should require outside the area observed a continuity that we observe in practice within our area before.
Whether derived from the observable means of a mathematical proof, usually with circular structure of the way to the reality of physical laws leaves as for example in Roger Penrose's book is "The road to reality .- A complete guide to the laws of the universe." asserts seems uncertain.
on the consideration of the water and the water molecule on its distribution in the universe we know neither space nor in time very little, except that our intellectual capacities are developed immediately from the interaction of water to constantly becoming and passing substantive phase or membrane interfaces. Is not the hope of growth and evolution of organisms, and ultimately the spirit of humanity with the eternal hope of infinity and fulfillment of the compass that drives us to the islands of sustainability, as you've described it so eloquently in your book.
I think that we from the average perspective of what we experience directly and watch should make our future. The fact that we had the transition from what and what is persistent, then can make better if we seek in the next step of our hubris of the limited superior knowledge of a prior understanding of the relationships that we see life as a path and the target of an evolution where our World intrnalisieren in ourselves rather than with maximum energy our future and our subsistence (the ability to survive on its own land area) put at risk.
The entire structure of our water-dependent Creation in self-similar (fractal) structures on the nano-organism up to the annual rent standing spring landscape with its recursive couplings is to humanity and its still under development, based intelligence. At regular intervals, resulting singular time frame for abrupt changes, it was a Menetekelbotschaft or the collapse of the mind and enslaving the human society. Today's threat is to a man despising science tries to run through simple silver bullet, brought in more and more money-driven central state entities as the state religion, globalized, all action and synchronized to leave.
This boundless company divested itself of the most important process to ensure a sustainable future that is the evolutionary process to provide the necessary flexibility to adapt organisms to the most site-and time-related phase dynamics. Evolution is also an energy-driven process of priority at phase boundaries and proceeds transferred to this relatively low-level potential in momentum. Too high and low cutoff potentials lead to disasters or social inefficiency. This development occurs by excessive or incorrect phase regulation of companies by means of laws with universality and is too large centralized political Units achieved. The findings show of Leopold Kohr (The Breakdown of Nations) as the growth of nations increasingly can increase the social inefficiency and thus promotes the decay. For this reason, it seems important to situate decentralized structures in the first place to revive, situate democracy locally and to make the socialization process continuously and efficiently.
Have tried this time in a sweeping water-related social and scientific concerns and perhaps take up the education in our society in the future and more water-bound organisms as to create event-oriented. Looking forward to a ping as the next post from you Regards Willy
Sunday, April 19, 2009
Biffy Clyro'smidi Files
From the finiteness of self-organization
Dear Willy,
many thanks for your last, very insightful post future and please forgive my somewhat long silence. But I will again continue to work on our long Dialogue, take up a lot last ausdeiner speak and my argument as well as your thoughts continue with another piece.
You wrote in your last post separated from the transformations of Newtonian physics, the mass and energy to consider something new, a dynamic system of interaction effects donkey. Right here is for me the important point to which you then subsequently also take a very detailed reference: We are facing one (or better we are already in the midst of a) turning the view of the "what" and the "how something is."
Consider what is so out of your as well as my previous contributions seems clear that the reality does not simply have "things" but rather just "processes", especially processes of the interaction between limited entities (which in itself back processes, but it maybe in a future post later). Nothing is, everything is, one could formulate exaggerated.
As you mention correctly, yes we can perceive without interaction does not, and without awareness, it would indeed be difficult to have a reality. We have now shown very well and do it as a basis for our further discussion Just set a time.
But wait, before we go further, we should have a bit to deal with what the now a "process": there is no more and no less than the logical consequence of the two essential factors of our previous discussion, the finiteness of the " cellular structures "on the one hand and the interaction between them on the other.
First, the finite: no infinite system may be increased by an interaction ändern.Das say even our less enlightened past natural laws already. An infinite mass about (and every infinite system is always infinite in all its properties, otherwise it would not just endless!) Can not by a finite force (or Andeer a finite size effect can be changed). If force is mass times acceleration is equal, then at infinite mass and a finite force, the acceleration is always zero. Eh very clear. What else but finite force but should apply a finite system as a cellular interaction?
Where once the first part of the derivative: interaction, so the change because of the other is bound to finitude.
Now the second part: Every finite interaction between finite cellular processes change their character. I have already explained in my previous post future. This change is always alternately (see the example of supercooled tourers and the warming oven: The hikers will be comfortably heated, the furnace cold). Precondition is that possible between the two systems is an exchange. Interaction is only possible if a partner something "does not have" and another little "too much" has. This always refers to qualities (the "potentials"), in our case is about the temperature of the two bodies "oven" and "tourers". Then an interaction, which tries to compensate for this "potential difference.
We are richer by one more fact of flight, time. Each interaction changed the direction of these changes, we take as "time" is true. Time is nothing more than a hand, a product the finiteness of the fragmented our reality. She is on the other hand nothing but the manifestation of the fact that all the parts, all "cellular units" of our reality is in constant interaction, are therefore constantly changing. So without any interaction finitude, as a consequence of the finite but compelling interaction and it necessarily the Ableutung the time the sequence of changes in the various cellular structures due to the interaction. Reality is therefore not fixed, not a "thing in itself, but a constant flow of interaction and change, a process. Reality is a process.
But now it is exciting, we can ie two Types of processes to think. On the one hand, processes that lead to compensation and other self-organizing processes. Compensatory processes are tedious and can be dealt with here briefly: For them, the interaction leads simply to the fact that the cellular entities that are involved in moving closer in character and eventually be indistinguishable. If our tourers leaves his hut, because lures out in the sunshine in the morning, then the entities, "stove" and "office" soon finally reach a balance in temperature. Between them, no (heat) exchange is no longer possible, because they are in their nature (at least in terms of the exchange of heat approximate) finally complete: you eventually have the same temperature. We speak here also of the balance between n of them related to my potential, and nothing else so that when the they no longer have become distinct, that they have become for this particular emersion not just two, but just a system. If you like, they are in relation to the heat exchange "dead" now.
The second kind of processes on the basis of interaction is much more important. You have in your previous contributions have such interesting examples: the climate, the processes in the growing of biomass, and much more. These processes are characterized in that they lead not just to "balance", no death state. There are general development processes.
unetrescheidet Now what these development processes from those that lead to a dead balance? Here there is an answer out of your second last post: the pulse.
A pulse is a very special form of interaction: it is "temporary." This means that it is there once again and then just gone. Once on, one off, a wave that is. We can already see why nature builds its exchanges so often waves: Our reality is a self-organizing process that just builds on that interactions lead to something new and not the death of the involved systems.
The important thing for pulse-exchange transactions, that they create is always the possibility that the parties retain their ability to exchange systems. There is not a potential difference that is "used up" slowly but surely, but the potential difference, which is necessary for the exchange, is produced repeatedly anew. The pulse (ie the change in potential) which is offered increased, just the chance that an interaction takes place. If the potential of the "transmitter" is greater than that of the "recipient", so it can come to exchange ideas. The transmitter emits something that the recipient gets something. So that the receiver can again receive something, you have to give him "time" Get the digest. This "time" he needs to to run the processes in its interior (within the cellular structure) that make it again, "listening".
So, that was now safe to put it more roughly. We shall call the process of interaction with other cellular units once "perception" and those of "digesting" the effect "dissipation." And here is a new interesting question: How "digest" cellular systems, the interaction with other systems?
The interesting thing is that there is a clear direction of the dissipation. Cellular units to build structures to enable the next pulse if possible even better . Use This means that the processes need to be changed inside the individual cells. It must be "structures" are built. Here, structures no more than other internal "cellular units" that can interact with each other. The more and more diverse, these internal cellular units (which are nothing but more "processes"), the smaller are the potential differences that are necessary to the captured by the interaction "income" of the large private system within their own " "Exchange of cellular structure, the" big small ", the potential of the entire system held, and the more the next time Pulse are recorded.
There seems to a very clear logical line from the "finality" to the "interaction" of the "interaction" to "Time", by the time Auffassumg of reality as a "process" and from there to the momentum of the " Self-organization leads.
This is even a bit further substance to our future post.
perhaps very briefly to your criticism of the scientists, which I share but when I leave but perhaps more lenient rule. Scientists are just people like everyone else, they want respect and security. Bedie they get when they work within the Energy Conservation Code boundaries of their craft. Who brings the boat to shake is not very considered. Therefore, scientists are usually conservative and less innovative. That is one side. The other side is that in this trade also always great outsider and "Conqueror" is the reality that have the power to influence entire generations. Even to use this innovative power I believe in science, so slow, slow, may seem brutal and often without their spirit striving forward.
extent now of me and I've been waiting very excited about your next post!
Michael
Dear Willy,
many thanks for your last, very insightful post future and please forgive my somewhat long silence. But I will again continue to work on our long Dialogue, take up a lot last ausdeiner speak and my argument as well as your thoughts continue with another piece.
You wrote in your last post separated from the transformations of Newtonian physics, the mass and energy to consider something new, a dynamic system of interaction effects donkey. Right here is for me the important point to which you then subsequently also take a very detailed reference: We are facing one (or better we are already in the midst of a) turning the view of the "what" and the "how something is."
Consider what is so out of your as well as my previous contributions seems clear that the reality does not simply have "things" but rather just "processes", especially processes of the interaction between limited entities (which in itself back processes, but it maybe in a future post later). Nothing is, everything is, one could formulate exaggerated.
As you mention correctly, yes we can perceive without interaction does not, and without awareness, it would indeed be difficult to have a reality. We have now shown very well and do it as a basis for our further discussion Just set a time.
But wait, before we go further, we should have a bit to deal with what the now a "process": there is no more and no less than the logical consequence of the two essential factors of our previous discussion, the finiteness of the " cellular structures "on the one hand and the interaction between them on the other.
First, the finite: no infinite system may be increased by an interaction ändern.Das say even our less enlightened past natural laws already. An infinite mass about (and every infinite system is always infinite in all its properties, otherwise it would not just endless!) Can not by a finite force (or Andeer a finite size effect can be changed). If force is mass times acceleration is equal, then at infinite mass and a finite force, the acceleration is always zero. Eh very clear. What else but finite force but should apply a finite system as a cellular interaction?
Where once the first part of the derivative: interaction, so the change because of the other is bound to finitude.
Now the second part: Every finite interaction between finite cellular processes change their character. I have already explained in my previous post future. This change is always alternately (see the example of supercooled tourers and the warming oven: The hikers will be comfortably heated, the furnace cold). Precondition is that possible between the two systems is an exchange. Interaction is only possible if a partner something "does not have" and another little "too much" has. This always refers to qualities (the "potentials"), in our case is about the temperature of the two bodies "oven" and "tourers". Then an interaction, which tries to compensate for this "potential difference.
We are richer by one more fact of flight, time. Each interaction changed the direction of these changes, we take as "time" is true. Time is nothing more than a hand, a product the finiteness of the fragmented our reality. She is on the other hand nothing but the manifestation of the fact that all the parts, all "cellular units" of our reality is in constant interaction, are therefore constantly changing. So without any interaction finitude, as a consequence of the finite but compelling interaction and it necessarily the Ableutung the time the sequence of changes in the various cellular structures due to the interaction. Reality is therefore not fixed, not a "thing in itself, but a constant flow of interaction and change, a process. Reality is a process.
But now it is exciting, we can ie two Types of processes to think. On the one hand, processes that lead to compensation and other self-organizing processes. Compensatory processes are tedious and can be dealt with here briefly: For them, the interaction leads simply to the fact that the cellular entities that are involved in moving closer in character and eventually be indistinguishable. If our tourers leaves his hut, because lures out in the sunshine in the morning, then the entities, "stove" and "office" soon finally reach a balance in temperature. Between them, no (heat) exchange is no longer possible, because they are in their nature (at least in terms of the exchange of heat approximate) finally complete: you eventually have the same temperature. We speak here also of the balance between n of them related to my potential, and nothing else so that when the they no longer have become distinct, that they have become for this particular emersion not just two, but just a system. If you like, they are in relation to the heat exchange "dead" now.
The second kind of processes on the basis of interaction is much more important. You have in your previous contributions have such interesting examples: the climate, the processes in the growing of biomass, and much more. These processes are characterized in that they lead not just to "balance", no death state. There are general development processes.
unetrescheidet Now what these development processes from those that lead to a dead balance? Here there is an answer out of your second last post: the pulse.
A pulse is a very special form of interaction: it is "temporary." This means that it is there once again and then just gone. Once on, one off, a wave that is. We can already see why nature builds its exchanges so often waves: Our reality is a self-organizing process that just builds on that interactions lead to something new and not the death of the involved systems.
The important thing for pulse-exchange transactions, that they create is always the possibility that the parties retain their ability to exchange systems. There is not a potential difference that is "used up" slowly but surely, but the potential difference, which is necessary for the exchange, is produced repeatedly anew. The pulse (ie the change in potential) which is offered increased, just the chance that an interaction takes place. If the potential of the "transmitter" is greater than that of the "recipient", so it can come to exchange ideas. The transmitter emits something that the recipient gets something. So that the receiver can again receive something, you have to give him "time" Get the digest. This "time" he needs to to run the processes in its interior (within the cellular structure) that make it again, "listening".
So, that was now safe to put it more roughly. We shall call the process of interaction with other cellular units once "perception" and those of "digesting" the effect "dissipation." And here is a new interesting question: How "digest" cellular systems, the interaction with other systems?
The interesting thing is that there is a clear direction of the dissipation. Cellular units to build structures to enable the next pulse if possible even better . Use This means that the processes need to be changed inside the individual cells. It must be "structures" are built. Here, structures no more than other internal "cellular units" that can interact with each other. The more and more diverse, these internal cellular units (which are nothing but more "processes"), the smaller are the potential differences that are necessary to the captured by the interaction "income" of the large private system within their own " "Exchange of cellular structure, the" big small ", the potential of the entire system held, and the more the next time Pulse are recorded.
There seems to a very clear logical line from the "finality" to the "interaction" of the "interaction" to "Time", by the time Auffassumg of reality as a "process" and from there to the momentum of the " Self-organization leads.
This is even a bit further substance to our future post.
perhaps very briefly to your criticism of the scientists, which I share but when I leave but perhaps more lenient rule. Scientists are just people like everyone else, they want respect and security. Bedie they get when they work within the Energy Conservation Code boundaries of their craft. Who brings the boat to shake is not very considered. Therefore, scientists are usually conservative and less innovative. That is one side. The other side is that in this trade also always great outsider and "Conqueror" is the reality that have the power to influence entire generations. Even to use this innovative power I believe in science, so slow, slow, may seem brutal and often without their spirit striving forward.
extent now of me and I've been waiting very excited about your next post!
Michael
Biffy Clyro'smidi Files
From the finiteness of self-organization
Dear Willy,
many thanks for your last, very insightful post future and please forgive my somewhat long silence. But I will again continue to work on our long Dialogue, take up a lot last ausdeiner speak and my argument as well as your thoughts continue with another piece.
You wrote in your last post separated from the transformations of Newtonian physics, the mass and energy to consider something new, a dynamic system of interaction effects donkey. Right here is for me the important point to which you then subsequently also take a very detailed reference: We are facing one (or better we are already in the midst of a) turning the view of the "what" and the "how something is."
Consider what is so out of your as well as my previous contributions seems clear that the reality does not simply have "things" but rather just "processes", especially processes of the interaction between limited entities (which in itself back processes, but it maybe in a future post later). Nothing is, everything is, one could formulate exaggerated.
As you mention correctly, yes we can perceive without interaction does not, and without awareness, it would indeed be difficult to have a reality. We have now shown very well and do it as a basis for our further discussion Just set a time.
But wait, before we go further, we should have a bit to deal with what the now a "process": there is no more and no less than the logical consequence of the two essential factors of our previous discussion, the finiteness of the " cellular structures "on the one hand and the interaction between them on the other.
First, the finite: no infinite system may be increased by an interaction ändern.Das say even our less enlightened past natural laws already. An infinite mass about (and every infinite system is always infinite in all its properties, otherwise it would not just endless!) Can not by a finite force (or Andeer a finite size effect can be changed). If force is mass times acceleration is equal, then at infinite mass and a finite force, the acceleration is always zero. Eh very clear. What else but finite force but should apply a finite system as a cellular interaction?
Where once the first part of the derivative: interaction, so the change because of the other is bound to finitude.
Now the second part: Every finite interaction between finite cellular processes change their character. I have already explained in my previous post future. This change is always alternately (see the example of supercooled tourers and the warming oven: The hikers will be comfortably heated, the furnace cold). Precondition is that possible between the two systems is an exchange. Interaction is only possible if a partner something "does not have" and another little "too much" has. This always refers to qualities (the "potentials"), in our case is about the temperature of the two bodies "oven" and "tourers". Then an interaction, which tries to compensate for this "potential difference.
We are richer by one more fact of flight, time. Each interaction changed the direction of these changes, we take as "time" is true. Time is nothing more than a hand, a product the finiteness of the fragmented our reality. She is on the other hand nothing but the manifestation of the fact that all the parts, all "cellular units" of our reality is in constant interaction, are therefore constantly changing. So without any interaction finitude, as a consequence of the finite but compelling interaction and it necessarily the Ableutung the time the sequence of changes in the various cellular structures due to the interaction. Reality is therefore not fixed, not a "thing in itself, but a constant flow of interaction and change, a process. Reality is a process.
But now it is exciting, we can ie two Types of processes to think. On the one hand, processes that lead to compensation and other self-organizing processes. Compensatory processes are tedious and can be dealt with here briefly: For them, the interaction leads simply to the fact that the cellular entities that are involved in moving closer in character and eventually be indistinguishable. If our tourers leaves his hut, because lures out in the sunshine in the morning, then the entities, "stove" and "office" soon finally reach a balance in temperature. Between them, no (heat) exchange is no longer possible, because they are in their nature (at least in terms of the exchange of heat approximate) finally complete: you eventually have the same temperature. We speak here also of the balance between n of them related to my potential, and nothing else so that when the they no longer have become distinct, that they have become for this particular emersion not just two, but just a system. If you like, they are in relation to the heat exchange "dead" now.
The second kind of processes on the basis of interaction is much more important. You have in your previous contributions have such interesting examples: the climate, the processes in the growing of biomass, and much more. These processes are characterized in that they lead not just to "balance", no death state. There are general development processes.
unetrescheidet Now what these development processes from those that lead to a dead balance? Here there is an answer out of your second last post: the pulse.
A pulse is a very special form of interaction: it is "temporary." This means that it is there once again and then just gone. Once on, one off, a wave that is. We can already see why nature builds its exchanges so often waves: Our reality is a self-organizing process that just builds on that interactions lead to something new and not the death of the involved systems.
The important thing for pulse-exchange transactions, that they create is always the possibility that the parties retain their ability to exchange systems. There is not a potential difference that is "used up" slowly but surely, but the potential difference, which is necessary for the exchange, is produced repeatedly anew. The pulse (ie the change in potential) which is offered increased, just the chance that an interaction takes place. If the potential of the "transmitter" is greater than that of the "recipient", so it can come to exchange ideas. The transmitter emits something that the recipient gets something. So that the receiver can again receive something, you have to give him "time" Get the digest. This "time" he needs to to run the processes in its interior (within the cellular structure) that make it again, "listening".
So, that was now safe to put it more roughly. We shall call the process of interaction with other cellular units once "perception" and those of "digesting" the effect "dissipation." And here is a new interesting question: How "digest" cellular systems, the interaction with other systems?
The interesting thing is that there is a clear direction of the dissipation. Cellular units to build structures to enable the next pulse if possible even better . Use This means that the processes need to be changed inside the individual cells. It must be "structures" are built. Here, structures no more than other internal "cellular units" that can interact with each other. The more and more diverse, these internal cellular units (which are nothing but more "processes"), the smaller are the potential differences that are necessary to the captured by the interaction "income" of the large private system within their own " "Exchange of cellular structure, the" big small ", the potential of the entire system held, and the more the next time Pulse are recorded.
There seems to a very clear logical line from the "finality" to the "interaction" of the "interaction" to "Time", by the time Auffassumg of reality as a "process" and from there to the momentum of the " Self-organization leads.
This is even a bit further substance to our future post.
perhaps very briefly to your criticism of the scientists, which I share but when I leave but perhaps more lenient rule. Scientists are just people like everyone else, they want respect and security. Bedie they get when they work within the Energy Conservation Code boundaries of their craft. Who brings the boat to shake is not very considered. Therefore, scientists are usually conservative and less innovative. That is one side. The other side is that in this trade also always great outsider and "Conqueror" is the reality that have the power to influence entire generations. Even to use this innovative power I believe in science, so slow, slow, may seem brutal and often without their spirit striving forward.
extent now of me and I've been waiting very excited about your next post!
Michael
Dear Willy,
many thanks for your last, very insightful post future and please forgive my somewhat long silence. But I will again continue to work on our long Dialogue, take up a lot last ausdeiner speak and my argument as well as your thoughts continue with another piece.
You wrote in your last post separated from the transformations of Newtonian physics, the mass and energy to consider something new, a dynamic system of interaction effects donkey. Right here is for me the important point to which you then subsequently also take a very detailed reference: We are facing one (or better we are already in the midst of a) turning the view of the "what" and the "how something is."
Consider what is so out of your as well as my previous contributions seems clear that the reality does not simply have "things" but rather just "processes", especially processes of the interaction between limited entities (which in itself back processes, but it maybe in a future post later). Nothing is, everything is, one could formulate exaggerated.
As you mention correctly, yes we can perceive without interaction does not, and without awareness, it would indeed be difficult to have a reality. We have now shown very well and do it as a basis for our further discussion Just set a time.
But wait, before we go further, we should have a bit to deal with what the now a "process": there is no more and no less than the logical consequence of the two essential factors of our previous discussion, the finiteness of the " cellular structures "on the one hand and the interaction between them on the other.
First, the finite: no infinite system may be increased by an interaction ändern.Das say even our less enlightened past natural laws already. An infinite mass about (and every infinite system is always infinite in all its properties, otherwise it would not just endless!) Can not by a finite force (or Andeer a finite size effect can be changed). If force is mass times acceleration is equal, then at infinite mass and a finite force, the acceleration is always zero. Eh very clear. What else but finite force but should apply a finite system as a cellular interaction?
Where once the first part of the derivative: interaction, so the change because of the other is bound to finitude.
Now the second part: Every finite interaction between finite cellular processes change their character. I have already explained in my previous post future. This change is always alternately (see the example of supercooled tourers and the warming oven: The hikers will be comfortably heated, the furnace cold). Precondition is that possible between the two systems is an exchange. Interaction is only possible if a partner something "does not have" and another little "too much" has. This always refers to qualities (the "potentials"), in our case is about the temperature of the two bodies "oven" and "tourers". Then an interaction, which tries to compensate for this "potential difference.
We are richer by one more fact of flight, time. Each interaction changed the direction of these changes, we take as "time" is true. Time is nothing more than a hand, a product the finiteness of the fragmented our reality. She is on the other hand nothing but the manifestation of the fact that all the parts, all "cellular units" of our reality is in constant interaction, are therefore constantly changing. So without any interaction finitude, as a consequence of the finite but compelling interaction and it necessarily the Ableutung the time the sequence of changes in the various cellular structures due to the interaction. Reality is therefore not fixed, not a "thing in itself, but a constant flow of interaction and change, a process. Reality is a process.
But now it is exciting, we can ie two Types of processes to think. On the one hand, processes that lead to compensation and other self-organizing processes. Compensatory processes are tedious and can be dealt with here briefly: For them, the interaction leads simply to the fact that the cellular entities that are involved in moving closer in character and eventually be indistinguishable. If our tourers leaves his hut, because lures out in the sunshine in the morning, then the entities, "stove" and "office" soon finally reach a balance in temperature. Between them, no (heat) exchange is no longer possible, because they are in their nature (at least in terms of the exchange of heat approximate) finally complete: you eventually have the same temperature. We speak here also of the balance between n of them related to my potential, and nothing else so that when the they no longer have become distinct, that they have become for this particular emersion not just two, but just a system. If you like, they are in relation to the heat exchange "dead" now.
The second kind of processes on the basis of interaction is much more important. You have in your previous contributions have such interesting examples: the climate, the processes in the growing of biomass, and much more. These processes are characterized in that they lead not just to "balance", no death state. There are general development processes.
unetrescheidet Now what these development processes from those that lead to a dead balance? Here there is an answer out of your second last post: the pulse.
A pulse is a very special form of interaction: it is "temporary." This means that it is there once again and then just gone. Once on, one off, a wave that is. We can already see why nature builds its exchanges so often waves: Our reality is a self-organizing process that just builds on that interactions lead to something new and not the death of the involved systems.
The important thing for pulse-exchange transactions, that they create is always the possibility that the parties retain their ability to exchange systems. There is not a potential difference that is "used up" slowly but surely, but the potential difference, which is necessary for the exchange, is produced repeatedly anew. The pulse (ie the change in potential) which is offered increased, just the chance that an interaction takes place. If the potential of the "transmitter" is greater than that of the "recipient", so it can come to exchange ideas. The transmitter emits something that the recipient gets something. So that the receiver can again receive something, you have to give him "time" Get the digest. This "time" he needs to to run the processes in its interior (within the cellular structure) that make it again, "listening".
So, that was now safe to put it more roughly. We shall call the process of interaction with other cellular units once "perception" and those of "digesting" the effect "dissipation." And here is a new interesting question: How "digest" cellular systems, the interaction with other systems?
The interesting thing is that there is a clear direction of the dissipation. Cellular units to build structures to enable the next pulse if possible even better . Use This means that the processes need to be changed inside the individual cells. It must be "structures" are built. Here, structures no more than other internal "cellular units" that can interact with each other. The more and more diverse, these internal cellular units (which are nothing but more "processes"), the smaller are the potential differences that are necessary to the captured by the interaction "income" of the large private system within their own " "Exchange of cellular structure, the" big small ", the potential of the entire system held, and the more the next time Pulse are recorded.
There seems to a very clear logical line from the "finality" to the "interaction" of the "interaction" to "Time", by the time Auffassumg of reality as a "process" and from there to the momentum of the " Self-organization leads.
This is even a bit further substance to our future post.
perhaps very briefly to your criticism of the scientists, which I share but when I leave but perhaps more lenient rule. Scientists are just people like everyone else, they want respect and security. Bedie they get when they work within the Energy Conservation Code boundaries of their craft. Who brings the boat to shake is not very considered. Therefore, scientists are usually conservative and less innovative. That is one side. The other side is that in this trade also always great outsider and "Conqueror" is the reality that have the power to influence entire generations. Even to use this innovative power I believe in science, so slow, slow, may seem brutal and often without their spirit striving forward.
extent now of me and I've been waiting very excited about your next post!
Michael
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